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US and UK escalate Russia war fever, but NATO splits over Ukraine emerge

Pushback with Aaron Mate

Pushback with Aaron Maté

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4.7594 Ratings

🗓️ 24 January 2022

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Support Pushback at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/aaronmate The US and UK are ramping up threats to Russia over Ukraine by sending more weapons, vowing more sanctions, and lodging evidence-free claims of a Russian plot to install a pro-Kremlin leader. But comments by Germany's navy chief that Russia "deserves respect" -- leading to his resignation -- underscore that not everyone is on board with Washington and London's war fever. Scholar and author Richard Sakwa discusses the latest in the Ukraine crisis. Guest: Richard Sakwa. Professor of Russian and European politics at the University of Kent. His books include “Frontline Ukraine: Crisis in the Borderlands” and his latest, “Deception: Russiagate and the New Cold War.”

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0:00.0

Welcome to Pushback. I'm Aaron Mate.

0:06.1

Joining me is Richard Sokwa, Professor of Russian and European politics at the University of Kent.

0:12.3

His books include Frontline Ukraine and his latest deception, Russia Gate and the New Cold War.

0:18.6

Professor Sokwa, thank you once again for joining me.

0:21.5

My pleasure.

0:23.4

Where do you assess things to be at right now between the U.S. and Russia?

0:28.6

As we are speaking, Anthony Blinken met with his Russian counterpart, Sergei Lavrov, a few

0:34.9

days ago.

0:36.1

There is talk of more talks.

0:37.9

And for the first time, the U.S. is saying that it will respond in writing to Russia's demands to

0:44.0

address the Ukraine crisis, something that it had delayed or stalled before.

0:49.8

Where do you see things headed now?

0:51.6

And do you think the prospect of a Russian invasion is any greater than it was when we last spoke?

0:59.0

Well, the response by the United States is due just soon after those Blinken-Lerlux talks.

1:08.2

And when it comes in possibly in the next few days, I've heard that there is an

1:14.6

argument that Moscow's, or Washington has asked Moscow not to reveal the contents immediately,

1:20.6

which suggests that there may actually be some movement on the negotiation front, and that the two security treaties which Russia

1:30.6

published in mid-December are going to be responded. So far, in this endless cycle of meetings

1:36.7

of NATO, Russia Council, OSCE and the bilaterals haven't really got anywhere. It's been dealing

1:43.2

with issues at the margins.

1:45.4

And what the whole point of this Russian sabre-rattling at the moment is to try to get the West's

1:51.5

attention above all the United States, which clearly is the leader in all these things,

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