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Ologies with Alie Ward

Urocyonology (LITTLE GRAY FOXES) with Bill Leikam

Ologies with Alie Ward

Alie Ward

Comedy, Science, Society & Culture

4.923.8K Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2025

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Bushy tails! Stinky butts! Faces so cute you weep! Let’s talk foxes – specifically the little gray ones you never knew you loved. Fox behavioral expert, researcher, conservationist, author of “The Road to Fox Hollow” and Urocyonologist Bill Leikam chats about fuzzy foxes, baby names, parental strategies, where they live, what they eat, advice for potential pet owners, how to observe foxes, how tiny foxes wound up on islands, which foxes need conservation, Silicon Valley foxes, and why a fox on the couch is worth 1000 in the bush. Also: what do they smell like? And what do they say?

Transcript

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0:00.0

Oh, hey, it's the guy who didn't even look at your receipt before dragging a highlighter over it.

0:04.8

Allie Ward, here it is. Here it is, the Fox episode. Waited years for this, and it was absolutely

0:12.0

totally different than I expected. Join me. So we're going to address the etymology of the ology in a bit,

0:17.9

but I do want you to know that in researching this, Google helpfully

0:22.3

redirected me to the search results for urology and then proctology. And then once again,

0:30.1

Eurogynecology. And I scoffed. But honestly, eurocinology, it kind of involves a bit of each of

0:37.1

those. Stick around. But this

0:39.0

expert is just one of my favorite kinds. His study species is just woven into his everyday life

0:46.4

and his dreams and his identity. I love all of it. And he's a retired English teacher, this fox

0:52.4

guy, who's known as the fox guy, and is very gifted with narrative abilities, like your favorite fireside storyteller.

1:01.9

He's even written a book, 2022's The Road to Fox Hollow, which is beautifully written.

1:07.6

And he's contributed to Canons of the world, published by Princeton University Press.

1:12.1

He's been an associate director of the North Santa Clara Resource Conservation District, and he co-founded

1:17.2

the Urban Wildlife Research Project, which has accomplished rigorous field research, has this

1:23.8

archive of data. Beth Pratt of our P-22 episode has called him the Jane Goodall of the gray fox.

1:31.3

And by the end of the episode, you're never going to look at foxes the same.

1:34.8

This is like showing you a new color you never knew existed or a flavor of cake.

1:40.4

They've been hiding in the back.

1:41.9

And we're going to get to it.

1:42.6

But first, quick, thank you to all the patrons who submitted questions for this episode. Thank you to everyone wearing ologies merch

1:48.1

from ologiesmerch.com. Also, side note, we have Smollogies, which are G-rated, shorter, kid-friendly

1:55.8

episodes, and those you can find anywhere you get your podcast. It's called Smologies. We linked them in the show notes, too.

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