Polls have shown that COVID lockdowns have had a long-term negative impact on church

attendance with Gallup reporting that it now does not appear to ever return to pre-pandemic levels.

In this episode, Culture reporter Megan Basham speaks to Pastor John MacArthur, whose church

won a historic settlement from the state of California in Los Angeles County after it defied lockdown

orders. He offers his perspective on the state of the church post-Covid and what he

makes of the legacy media's increasing coverage of Christian nationalism.

I'm Georgia Howe with Daily Wire Editor-in-Chief John Bickley.

It's March 31st and it's Easter Sunday.

And this is your Sunday edition of Morning

Weiner.

Well, thank you so much for joining us,

Pastor MacArthur. You know, to start out,

I think a lot of people are just now sort of looking

back and doing an autopsy on what happened in the church during COVID.

And I think maybe the biggest question a lot of people have is how would you describe

the state of the American Church following COVID and what do you think the greatest issue

we face is right now?

Well, I think post-COVID. the greatest issue we face is right now?

Well I think post-Covid, the biggest issue is people are honestly re-evaluating the quality and character

and courage and wisdom of spiritual leaders.

The people who wanted to shut down everything

and create a disaster that lockdowns were, needed to get a hold of the one potential adversary,

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