We're discussing individual one and sharing our raw follow-up interview with Tiffany Bond. He ran for Congress in Maine.

This is Sarah from the Lent and Beth from the right. You're listening to Pantsuit politics. No shouting, no insults, plenty of the ones.

Welcome to another episode of Pantsuit politics brought to you from the Panera Parking Lot, we're together. We're together in Sarah's mini van.

In my mini van because we just had an amazing two-hour coffee chat with Amy McGrath. It was really, really awesome. We did not record all two hours.

We got some audio to share with you, but this was really, we really wanted to meet her in person and talk to her and it was an unbelievable conversation.

But today we're going to talk a little bit about the Mueller investigation because it's really reached a place where we can't talk about something else.

We had something else planned, but Robert Mueller has been busy, the prosecutors in the Southern District of New York have been busy, so we're going to talk about that.

And then we're going to share a conversation we had last week with Tiffany Bond, who you might recall ran for Congress in Maine.

And Tiffany has been very real and raw from the beginning and this conversation is no different.

And I think it's a really important conversation. If you are dissatisfied in any way with the state of politics, you need to listen to this conversation and share it with other people.

And we'll end as we always do with what's on our minds outside of politics. I feel Sarah that we have no choice but to talk about top chef Kentucky today.

So lead the way, Beth, you're our Mueller expert.

There are a number of pieces contributing to the new cycle right now, and I think it's confusing.

And so we need to make sure that we distinguish what's happening in the Southern District of New York from the Mueller investigation.

In the Southern District of New York, prosecutors have been looking at the payments that Michael Cohen facilitated to Karen McDougall and Stormy Daniels

while President Trump was campaigning for the presidency. And prosecutors filed a memo asking for no leniency essentially for Michael Cohen, because even though Cohen's lawyers are trying to paint a picture of him as a cooperating witness, prosecutors in the Southern District of New York, and these are federal prosecutors, they're still part of the Department of Justice.

It is just not the special counsel's office. This is happening through normal channels.

Those prosecutors say that Michael Cohen is not a cooperating witness in the way that that term is used in their district, that there are other crimes that Michael Cohen has involvement in that he's not being forthcoming, that he has at all times acted out of self interest and greed, that he is a lying liar who lies essentially, which is why he had such a great partnership with our president.

And so they are saying he broke campaign finance laws in a criminal way by facilitating these payments and depriving the American people of the opportunity to learn the truth about their candidate for president.

And it is in that document that you have the president repeatedly referred to as individual one.

And there is no doubt about who individual one is because it says things like individual one commenced and ran a successful campaign for president.

So it's not confusing who they're referring to. So that happened in the Southern District of New York.

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