If you've been a listener for a while, you might remember this story.

It's about a woman that we had to call Chival

when we were making the episode, not because that was her actual name, but because she had

lost her name. She had lost her name when she lost her brand name. She'd also lost all of the

work that she'd created under that name and was barred from

the industry where she had made a name for herself under her actual name.

It was a situation very similar to a situation that I, myself, narrowly escaped with the podcast

and a story that a lot of people have experienced from

Taylor Swift on down to creatives and artists that you've never heard of and never will.

It is a specific kind of stress, a specific kind of grief, and it is also one that resonates

through many fields and many situations.

When we first recorded this, it was 2022.

So I had just gotten ownership of all of my podcast work.

And Taylor Swift was re-recording all of her albums in a show of Defiance over not owning her

masters, defiance in capitalism, let's say. And now it's 2025. Taylor Swift owns her masters

and the woman we called Cheval has her own update that you'll hear at the end of this episode.

When you meet a person, it's normal to introduce yourself to say, hi, I'm Nora McInerney.

Or I mean, you would say your name, unless your name is Nora McInerney.

I do know there is another one of us out there, and we used to be Facebook friends.

But that's what we do.

We meet a stranger.

We say, hello.

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