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in the rafters a podcast brought to you this basketball season by our friends over at johnny t-shirt

co-hosting this i'm taylor vipolis and this year I'm joined by national champion, the most outstanding

player of the Final Four and a Carolina basketball legend in every sense of the word,

the ACC Networks.

Joel Barry. Joel, before we get started today with Carolina basketball, I saw Sunday was the 11-year anniversary since you committed to UNC.

One makes me feel incredibly old because I remember being in school when you committed.

I want to take a trip down memory lane.

What do you remember most about your commitment?

Why you chose North Carolina?

How did it all go down?

Yeah, man. So it was special for me and it was kind of different in a way that everyone

else was doing it. I wasn't the guy. I wasn't like, you know, I didn't have the hats lined

up, you know, with Florida. And I had Florida State on my list. I had Kansas. I had Kentucky.

You know, I didn't have that. I just, I went on my official visit. I only took one official

visit, which again was a lot different. And when I went on campus, man, I just got this feeling

like, man, this is for me. And I got back home. And when I went on campus, man, I just got this feeling like, man, this is for me.

And I got back home and I told my parents like, as soon as we landed, I was like,

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