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For inside Carolina, I'm Taylor Vipolis, and this is up in the rafters where I'm joined by

Carolina basketball legend and 2017 national champion Justin Jackson. Justin, happy holidays to you and your family, a happy new year to everybody that listens or watches this podcast for Carolina basketball.

Two games since the last time we talked, they go on the road

at Pittsburgh. They were up, I think, nine in the second half. They wind up losing that game.

And then they rebound last night back in Chapel Hill against Wake Forest. What have kind of been

your takeaways watching this North Carolina team

these past two games

when they were rotting a four-game win streak

and they kind of take that step back against Pitt

and then bounce back against Wake?

Yeah, I mean, I think, for one,

I think both games are totally,

it's a totally different storyline.

Against Pittsburgh, honestly, Pittsburgh just kind of seemed like they wanted it a little bit more.

You kind of see down the stretch.

Defensively, North Carolina just didn't really give much resistance.

It was almost like Pittsburgh was just putting their heads down

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