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a podcast brought to you by Inside Carolina this college basketball season. I'm Taylor Vipal

hosting this.

As always, joining me.

He's a national champion, Final Four's most outstanding player,

a Carolina basketball legend, Joel Berry. Thank you. Joel, first off, I'm glad you made it back safely from Bristol, got out of there before the weather got bad, but, man, it's been a rough two days for the ACC.

Man, it was, it was rough, man. I don't even know what to say at this point, honestly. I mean, we came out of the gate and it was 5-0. And then from there, it was

Clemson saved the night basically by not only just getting a win, but the substance of the

win, beating in the number four team in the country. So all in all, it was rough. And then it just

kind of rough just me being a Florida boy and snow

doesn't work, doesn't work. Yeah, I think, you know, you work for the ACC network. I love

ACC basketball. Me and you have been the two strongest defenders where it's like, hey, you put these teams in the tournament, the ACC teams are going to show out.

The past two days, even I'm like, something might be in the water here.

This is like an under the hood problem. A conversation that's longer than this

podcast can hold. But I just think the integrity of the ACC has sort of been lost because of

just the nature of college sports and that money is being dumped into football.

But like I said, that's longer than what we can hold here.

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