Up a Creek: Jakob Shockey on DarkHorse
DarkHorse Podcast
Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying
4.6 • 5.6K Ratings
🗓️ 13 May 2026
⏱️ 114 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hey folks, welcome to the Dark Horse podcast Inside Rail. I am thrilled to be sitting with |
| 0:06.4 | returning guest Jacob Shockey, who is the founder and director of Project Beaver. Some of you |
| 0:12.3 | will remember that we did a prior episode on Beaver Ecology. I've learned a ton from Jacob about |
| 0:18.4 | that amazing topic. As fascinated as I was before, I was stunned by what I learned. |
| 0:23.5 | We are going to talk about a bunch of new issues regarding beavers. |
| 0:27.5 | But before we get to that, let me just say first, thank you for joining me and welcome |
| 0:31.8 | to Dark Horse. |
| 0:32.6 | Thanks for having me. |
| 0:35.5 | There's a story before we get to the Beaver Ecology that I think viewers of this podcast will be fascinated by. |
| 0:44.2 | You have been doing your work in the nonprofit world and your organization stumbled at the point. Well, maybe you should tell the story of what happened to |
| 0:57.7 | the Beaver Coalition, the initial presentation of your organization. Yeah, so we were the Beaver |
| 1:04.3 | Coalition. We, I left my job doing restoration work and started this nonprofit. |
| 1:12.6 | And in March of 2020, which was a great time to start a new endeavor. |
| 1:18.6 | But we had a lot of momentum. |
| 1:21.6 | We were doing little interviews with folks that would land in National Geographic and such and |
| 1:28.3 | attracting a lot of attention. And then at some point, I got a hold of you guys and said, |
| 1:37.0 | hey, you need to come see a Beaver Wetland. At the time you're living in Portland, and |
| 1:43.2 | viewers will be familiar with that. |
| 1:44.6 | We'll drag you out into the beaver wetland. |
| 1:46.8 | Afterward, Heather published a piece about beavers on her substack. |
| 1:51.6 | And at the very end of that piece, she said something like, if folks are interested in learning more about beavers, there's a nonprofit nonprofit started by a former student and friend. |
| 2:02.8 | Go check it out, the Beaver Coalition. |
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