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DarkHorse Podcast

Up a Creek: Jakob Shockey on DarkHorse

DarkHorse Podcast

Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying

Adaptation, Society & Culture, Science, Culture, Evolutionary Biology, News, Modernity, Natural Sciences, Politics

4.65.6K Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2026

⏱️ 114 minutes

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Bret Weinstein speaks with Jakob Shockey on the subject of cancel culture in the nonprofit world, raising money, and beavers. Find Project Beaver at https://www.projectbeaver.org ***** Sponsors: Caraway: Non-toxic, highly functional & beautiful cookware and bakeware. Save with Caraway’s cookware set and visit http://Carawayhome.com/DHPOD to for an additional 10% off your next purchase. Puori: Amazingly clean and safe supplements and protein powders, lab tested and guaranteed. Go to h...

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0:00.0

Hey folks, welcome to the Dark Horse podcast Inside Rail. I am thrilled to be sitting with

0:06.4

returning guest Jacob Shockey, who is the founder and director of Project Beaver. Some of you

0:12.3

will remember that we did a prior episode on Beaver Ecology. I've learned a ton from Jacob about

0:18.4

that amazing topic. As fascinated as I was before, I was stunned by what I learned.

0:23.5

We are going to talk about a bunch of new issues regarding beavers.

0:27.5

But before we get to that, let me just say first, thank you for joining me and welcome

0:31.8

to Dark Horse.

0:32.6

Thanks for having me.

0:35.5

There's a story before we get to the Beaver Ecology that I think viewers of this podcast will be fascinated by.

0:44.2

You have been doing your work in the nonprofit world and your organization stumbled at the point. Well, maybe you should tell the story of what happened to

0:57.7

the Beaver Coalition, the initial presentation of your organization. Yeah, so we were the Beaver

1:04.3

Coalition. We, I left my job doing restoration work and started this nonprofit.

1:12.6

And in March of 2020, which was a great time to start a new endeavor.

1:18.6

But we had a lot of momentum.

1:21.6

We were doing little interviews with folks that would land in National Geographic and such and

1:28.3

attracting a lot of attention. And then at some point, I got a hold of you guys and said,

1:37.0

hey, you need to come see a Beaver Wetland. At the time you're living in Portland, and

1:43.2

viewers will be familiar with that.

1:44.6

We'll drag you out into the beaver wetland.

1:46.8

Afterward, Heather published a piece about beavers on her substack.

1:51.6

And at the very end of that piece, she said something like, if folks are interested in learning more about beavers, there's a nonprofit nonprofit started by a former student and friend.

2:02.8

Go check it out, the Beaver Coalition.

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