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The Big Flop

Unzipping American Apparel with Sasheer Zamata and Jared Goldstein | 86

The Big Flop

Wondery

Society & Culture, Comedy, Business

4.6884 Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

In the early 2000s, American Apparel was the coolest kid on the block, slinging ethically-made tees and scandalous billboards. But founder Dov Charney's penchant for office orgies and nude photoshoots proved too spicy for Wall Street, turning his sweatshop-free dream into a nightmare of lawsuits, bankruptcy, and one very public walk of shame.

Sasheer Zamata and Jared Goldstein join Misha to uncover the almost naked truth behind American Apparel.  

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0:32.7

Y'all, what is going on with men? We've talked about a lot of men with the audacity on this show,

0:41.2

but today's main character somehow goes from liking soft t-shirts

0:45.4

to sexualizing dogs and advertisements.

0:49.1

Why can't millionaire dudes just go be rich, as one of my guests puts it?

0:56.0

Quietly.

0:57.0

In a corner.

0:58.3

Far away from people.

1:00.1

But before I get too carried away roasting millionaires, let's get into it, besties,

1:05.1

because this story is buck wild.

1:08.8

American Apparel says its decision to oust its controversial chief executive, Dove Charnie,

1:13.6

was linked to alleged misconduct.

1:15.4

He has this crazy theory that ages the new class.

1:18.4

People said that you were shooting models who were too young.

1:22.3

Some say those ads crossed the line and that the CEO did too.

1:25.5

At work in his underwear?

1:26.9

It's so unusual to have a board force out the person who created the empire from scratch,

1:34.3

and such a high-profile figure too.

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