This is something CIA taught us. The world thinks that talent is what's impressive.

Everybody wants to be talented, like your most talented basketball players, your most talented dancers, or your most talented musicians.

These people who become famous because of their incredible talent at the age of 13, right? You're Michael Jackson's, your Taylor Swift's.

And the truth is that you don't

actually have to be born with talent to be incredibly successful because all of the

other people on the team all of the other people in the band all of the backup

dancers all of the countless other musicians who are out there who are very very

successful they may not have been born with the talent, but they developed the skill.

So I just got back from a trip to L.A. And, you know, it's always kind of a, it's like a mix of joy

and pain every time I go to L.A.

Because it's a four and a half hour flight.

Yeah.

And then on the way back, it's oftentimes five hours because we have to connect somewhere.

But this trip was unlike any other because I actually got to do a podcast and a tour of a place called the Cinema Makeup School of Los Angeles.

That's super awesome.

It was, so I didn't think it was going to be anywhere near as cool as it actually was.

Yeah.

Because, like, I heard cinema makeup.

And I was like, oh, okay, well, that makes sense because everybody has hair and makeup on set.

You're thinking like regular makeup.

That's not what it was. It was like, it was monster heads and alien bodies and full-sized suits, transforming people

into wolf creatures and oh my gosh.

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