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Psych Legal Pop Podcast

Untold: The Shooting at Hawthorne Hill

Psych Legal Pop Podcast

Tess & Brooke Brigham

Relationships, Society & Culture, Tv & Film, True Crime

4.2610 Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2026

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

In this Netflix documentary, when a famed Olympic equestrian trainer shoots his student on a horse farm, his fate seems sealed - until he claimed her social media posts drove him insane.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome back to the psych legal pop podcast. This is a podcast where two sisters talk about popular culture through the lens of an attorney and a therapist. I'm Brooke Brigham. I'm the attorney. And I'm Tess Brigham. I'm the therapist. And today we are going to be talking about a new documentary on Netflix, which is called The Shooting at Hawthorne Hill.

0:25.8

Yes, part of the Untold series. I really enjoyed this. I have to do. And I don't know who I wanted to shoot more.

0:34.9

Yeah. I wanted to shoot all of them.

0:45.5

I mean, and also, I definitely think the producers, I mean, this is like worth a watch because it's like a little over an hour.

0:47.4

It's pretty entertaining.

0:48.9

The producers really didn't like Lauren, our victim.

0:52.0

Again, our victim.

0:53.9

Right. Because if they liked her,

0:58.5

they would not have shown us as much video of her in quote unquote real life, like her

1:04.6

riding horses, her interacting with her boyfriend, all of those things. I think they would have cut

1:11.5

that down because that's really, you're like, oh, okay, you know, before you even hear about the

1:17.4

story, you're like, oh, this woman's nuts. Yeah, but you can't get away from the fact that a big

1:23.3

part of the trial was her 20,000 pages of Facebook posts.

1:28.6

Yes.

1:29.2

You know what I mean?

1:30.0

No, no, no.

1:30.4

I'm saying that.

1:31.1

But if I didn't know anything about the Facebook, wouldn't you automatically be like,

1:34.5

oh, God, I instantly was like, I don't like this woman's energy.

1:38.3

I don't like her.

1:39.6

You know, I just, I felt she just, she made me feel something right away.

1:45.1

And usually victims, you're kind of, you're empathetic, a bit empathetic with them.

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