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Rational Security

Until We Run Out of Fuel and Bullets

Rational Security

The Lawfare Institute

News, Foreignpolicy, Nationalsecurity, Politics, Government, Middleeast

4.82K Ratings

🗓️ 5 February 2015

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

This week, Shane, Ben, and Tamara and the gang discuss the latest ISIS video showing the death of a Jordanian pilot, and what it means for the future of the U.S.-led coalition to destroy ISIS, as well as public opinion in Jordan and the United States. Plus, a deeper look at post-Snowden surveillance reforms, and whether they're meaningful or mostly for show. 

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Cancel any time, tease and sees apply. Hello and welcome to episode 5 of rational security until we run out of fuel and bullets.

0:42.0

I'm Shane Harris of The Daily Beast. Our title this week is of course a reference to a speech that King Abdullah of Jordan made before the U.S. Congress this week in which she promised to crush ISIS and fight until we run

0:55.6

out of fuel and bullets. Jordan's obviously been in the news a lot this week and we're

0:59.3

going to talk about that. I'm joined as always by my friends Ben Wittis of the Brookings Institution a noted

1:04.8

group collector.

1:06.2

Yeah I'm not sure having one group count the only one I, so you are a noted root collector.

1:14.0

Well, my former and current lawfare contributor and sometime co-author Jane Chong saw that I had tweeted from Washington and Lee Law School where we saw

1:26.6

the Grute courtroom, saw I had tweeted I am Grute and so sent me a little baby dancing Grut.

1:35.0

And what is it Grut for those of us who have like me who have never seen this little monster before?

1:39.0

Well, it's a thing from the guardians of the galaxy.

1:44.5

Oh, that's what that is.

1:45.6

And all it says is I am Grut.

1:48.0

Okay, this entire joke was lost on me.

1:49.9

I just pretended that I knew what we're talking about.

1:52.1

No, I didn't want to seem left out.

1:53.7

You're not a comic book fan? No, but I'm a huge Chris Pratt man. There you go.

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