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In The Thick

Unthinkable Trauma

In The Thick

Futuro Media

News Commentary, Politics, Culture, Society, News, Society & Culture

4.9 • 1.9K Ratings

🗓️ 8 September 2020

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Maria and Julio talk with Jacob Soboroff, a correspondent for NBC News and MSNBC and author of the New York Times bestseller Separated: Inside an American Tragedy. They dive into the history of ripping parents and children from each other at the U.S. border, the unfathomable trauma that ensues, and how the Trump administration has systematically pursued a policy of family separation. ITT Staff Picks:  - Dara Lind and Lomi Kriel report for ProPublica about thousands of migrant children who have been expelled from the U.S. by the Trump administration under the pretext of COVID-19. - Evgenia Peretz writes, "The Millers’ respective issues dovetail in a single phenomenon: harm to immigrant communities and people of color" in this analysis of what has shaped Stephen Miller's politics and the influence his wife and him have on White House policy for Vanity Fair. - Julia Ainsley and Jacob Soboroff write that an inspector general report confirms migrant children were left waiting in vans for hours, sometimes overnight, while waiting to be reunited with their parents for NBC News. Photo credit: John Moore/Getty Images  


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When you design a system that's meant to scare people from coming away,

0:28.0

when they're fleeing desperate circumstances and situations,

0:32.0

and there is no alternative, this is what's going to happen, and that's undeniable.

0:36.4

O'O! Hey, welcome to In The Thick. This is a podcast about politics, race, and culture from a POC perspective.

0:44.4

I'm Marianne Hosa and I'm Hurryka Loa Guadalajara.

0:47.4

We have a very special guest joining us from Southern California, Jacob Sobroff.

0:51.6

He's an award-winning journalist, a correspondent for

0:54.2

NBC news and MS NBC, and hey, a best-selling author now. What's up, Jacob?

0:59.2

It's so good to be with you guys. You know, I wanted to do this for so long with you and I'm just grateful to be here with you guys. You know I wanted to do this for so long with you and I'm just

1:03.2

grateful to be here with you guys. I know he's a fan he's a fan of the thing.

1:06.4

Fan of the pod. Yes we love that we love fans of the pod so we're going to be

1:10.4

talking about an issue that you have called an American tragedy.

1:14.5

And this is the issue and the history of family separation.

1:18.8

I don't even like that term because it's really families being ripped apart, torn apart.

1:23.6

In your new book, separated inside an American tragedy,

1:27.0

you take readers through a very intimate look

1:29.2

into the policy, into the families that have been torn apart and traumatized.

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