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This is Words Matter with Norm Ornstein.

We've got the boats and screw the rest of you.

And Dr. Kavita Patel.

These might be some of the smaller moments,

you know, with all the bombshells, didn't catch people's eyes. Hello and welcome to

Hello and welcome to Words Matter from the DSR network. Each week Norm Ornstein and I will talk about the issues facing our country

as we head into none other than quite possibly one of the most important

election cycles. I say that I feel like every couple of years but I really mean it

this time norm and today I think we're going to talk about something that's shaping

the narrative of not just campuses around the country norm but is it fair to say

that what is unfolding across college campuses

universities and as we're recording this podcast what's happening on Columbia

University's campus it really does feel like it's just tapping into like, to use a doctor's

kind of phrase here, it's really tapping into a nerve that strikes all of us, whether you are, you know, no matter what your background, racial or

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