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NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast

Untangle Your Relationship with Money for Better Mental, Emotional, and Financial Well-Being

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast

NerdWallet Personal Finance

Business, Investing, Education, How To

4.3893 Ratings

🗓️ 22 December 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Learn how to navigate job loss and reshape your money mindset to feel more in control — emotionally and financially. What should you do with your money after losing a job? How can you feel better about money and stop stressing about finances? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola discuss managing job loss and improving your relationship with money to help you understand both the practical and emotional sides of financial well-being. NerdWallet writer Kim Palmer joins the show to share her conversation with Aja Evans, a financial therapist and author of Feel-Good Finance: Untangle Your Relationship with Money for Better Mental, Emotional, and Financial Well-Being. They discuss money taboos and financial trauma, with tips and tricks on how to open up about money, build healthier habits, and understand your emotional triggers. Then, Bri, a listener from Chicago, joins Sean and Elizabeth to discuss navigating job loss and making tough financial decisions. They discuss how to choose between COBRA and marketplace health insurance, when to consider tapping savings or debt, and how to balance job search priorities without derailing your financial future. They also share smart strategies for cutting spending, staying motivated with rewards-based goals, and deciding what to do with old retirement accounts. In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: job loss finances, what to do after losing a job, COBRA vs marketplace insurance, unemployment benefits, high-yield savings accounts, emotional spending, financial trauma, money shame, how to budget after layoff, unemployment job search tips, how to choose health insurance after job loss, rollover retirement account, how to talk about money, financial therapy, coping with job loss, 50/30/20 budget rule, rebuilding emergency funds, how to negotiate salary, unemployment and freelance work, how to cut spending fast, when to tap retirement savings, mental health and money, money mindset, smart budgeting strategies, financial stress relief, marketplace health insurance, spending triggers, navigating layoffs, unemployment and part-time work, personal budgeting goals, rebuilding after job loss, job loss recovery plan, financial therapy techniques, affordable health insurance options, rolling over 401(k), money taboos, improving financial habits, saving during unemployment, and the emotional impact of job loss. To send the Nerds your money questions, call or text the Nerd hotline at 901-730-6373 or email podcast@nerdwallet.com. Like what you hear? Please leave us a review and tell a friend. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

This festive season of McDonald's get...

0:02.0

Grinched deals every day.

0:03.0

Okay, okay. With a sausage sandwich for just... Let's see. Nine and a MP? Six chigger mcnuggets for just... Nine and ap. Fine. Get Grinch deals every day in the McDonald's app. 18 plus app only ends 24th of December. One use per offer. Please apply to delivery. Participation varies. Please and seize apply. I'm having a big party.

0:22.2

Got any finger food that won't cost an arm and a leg?

0:24.7

We do. of December. One use per offer. Please apply to delivery. Participation varies. Please and seeds apply. Hey Sainsbury.

0:22.0

I'm having a big party.

0:37.1

Got any finger food that won't cost an arm and a leg? We do. All our Sainsbury's party food is three for two with nectar. Like our taste the difference, crispy mushroom tartlets, mini-waggy beef cheeseburgers or crispy chicken bow buns. That will get them coming back for seconds. and thirds.

0:39.6

Want to save big on party pleasers?

0:40.9

Ask Sainsbury's.

0:38.0

Sainsbury's. Sainsbury's good food for all of us.

0:43.3

18 plus, nectar required, cheapest product free, available in store and online, excluding locals,

0:48.1

subject to availability, teas and sees apply. So do you have your Christmas shopping done,

0:52.4

Elizabeth? Of course I do, because I don't think I buy more than 10 presents every year. So all done. Love that. Fugal Queen over here. Absolutely. Meanwhile, I got all of my holiday gifts while I was on my honeymoon in Japan, so I'm feeling pretty prepared right now. Well, since we're all done shopping, what are you doing with the rest of the week, Sean? We're a couple of days to Christmas.

1:11.3

I love to read an entire book in the week between Christmas and New Year's and the lead-up to Christmas, so I'm going to have my nose stuck in a book all week. And I like to watch Christmas movies. So I have my list and I have my hot chocolate and I have all of my snacks and I'm going to be snuggled up under my covers. Well, I'm assuming our listeners' holiday tradition is listening to us every week on the podcast,

1:31.0

and we have a special archive episode for them to enjoy while we are off doing other things.

1:34.9

That's right. And we still want you guys to make time to send us your money questions,

1:38.7

whatever you happen to be doing the couple of days leading up to Christmas,

1:41.5

and we want you to send them to 901-730-6373.

1:46.3

That's 901-730 and ERD.

1:49.3

And, Sean, where can they email us?

1:50.9

You can email us at podcast at nerdwollet.com.

1:53.7

Let's get to the show.

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