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The inquest jury has now heard from 10 witnesses during two days of hearing.

Several people have described the actions of Officer Josh T. Brown and James Larry Durdon

the night the two men killed AC Hall. But the jury hasn't heard from Brown or Durdon themselves.

So where have the two officers been during this hearing? Right there, sitting at the defense table

in the Stately Old Court room in downtown Macon. They've been watching every witness

soaking up every word of testimony. And now it's their turn.

What happens next when you read it in the transcript of the inquest and probably if you heard

it in the courtroom sounds ordinary, unimportant. Some arcane point of law that doesn't matter to

people who aren't lawyers. But believe me, it does matter.

The coroner asks defense attorney Den Mark Groover whether the police statements will be sworn

or unsworn. Unsworn Groover says, then the coroner says gentlemen, these will be unsworn

statements. There will be no questions asked. Whoa, did you hear that? Did he just say that

officers Brown and Durdon would be making unsworn statements? I mean, doesn't that mean they could

you know speak falsely, make up stories, lie? And there will be no questions asked.

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