Welcome to bewildered. I'm Martha Beck here with Rowan Mangan. At this crazy moment in history,

a lot of people are feeling bewildered, but that actually may be a sign we're on track.

Human culture teaches us to come to consensus, but nature, our own true nature, helps us come

to our senses. Rowan and I believe that the best way to figure it all out is by going through

a wilderness into bewildered. That's why we're here. You know, what I'm seeing out in the world

is a lot of fear and a growing amount of despair. Maybe you're feeling that way too, because the ways

our culture has taught us to navigate the world, to navigate our lives, they are failing us.

We need a new language. We need a new set of tools to find our way individually and as a group.

And I know we can still do this. I put everything I do know about it into wayfinder life coach training

and the tools that I teach there are to help people redefine how we relate to each other,

how we make a living, how we do community. We can only change the world for the better if we redefine

how we think. Registration is open for the fall and the world needs wayfinders now more than ever.

So please go to myotherbank.com and you'll find your way.

Hi this is Marty and I'm Rowan and here we are at another episode of bewildered

the podcast for people trying to figure it out. I myself have been trying to figure it out of late

by reading tea leaves and Marty was drinking some sparkling water yesterday and she sort of gazed

deep into the bubbles and suddenly just had it all figured out. Yeah yeah because see the problem

is people try to read solid matter like tea leaves or coffee grounds or I don't know tarot cards.

I say it's all about gas Rowan. It's gas. Yes the bubbles will tell you everything is made of gas,

everything of it heats up enough becomes gas. We are gas to gas. Forget ashes to ashes,

dust to dust, we're all made of gas and I am that's literally true if you heat something up

it up it all becomes gas. Rowan's giving me that look because you were being so funny and then

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