Hi, this is Anne Coulter. Welcome to my Ricochet funcast.

I have the famous Jessica Vaughan. The person I turn to when I need to know anything about immigration.

She is a fond of information, the encyclopedia of what is going on with immigration. She works for Center for

Immigration Studies about the only immigration website you can trust on any of this. Welcome,

Jessica Vaughn. Thank you, Anne. Great to be with you. Oh, and best of all, she's coming in from

a Viking trip and where, Croatia?

Transylvania.

Oh, it actually is Transylvania.

Yeah, Central, then they call it that.

Central Romania.

It's spectacularly beautiful, a lot of fun, wonderful people.

Oh, I'd love to do that.

I bet they have a wall and a much better immigration policy.

One of, I just emailed me, I'm not sure if you got the email. One of the things I wanted to ask you, because when I was working on

putting in some really aggressive stuff in the immigration law when I worked for the Senate Judiciary Committee,

1996, I think it was part of the terrorism bill. But anyway, I got a hold of a, I forget how,

I was connected to someone in the terrorism bill. But anyway, I got a hold of a, I forget how. I was

connected to someone in the New York U.S. attorney's office, and his specialty was immigration law.

And he just went through, I mean, it would have taken me 200 years to find this, just these

specific provisions. If you just changed this, took this word out here, there were these

tiny little changes that made such an enormous difference that for the next

five years, the New York Times denounced these provisions in the immigration law, and I think

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