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Unsafe with Ann Coulter: Jacob Heilbrunn on Trump’s Iran Fiasco

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News, Politics

4.4651 Ratings

🗓️ 13 April 2026

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

Ann interviews Jacob Heilbrunn, editor of The National Interest. If you don’t know him already, you should. Here, they discuss the disaster of the Iran “incursion,” what made Trump do it, what JD Vance should do, and Reagan’s legacy — among other issues of vital interest to me. And also pretty important for the country. […]

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Ann Coulter. Welcome to my substack. I've been dying to interview Jacob Heilbrun,

0:10.6

particularly for the article he wrote after Trump's speech last Wednesday. But when I looked up,

0:15.7

I've been reading Jacob Hallbrum forever. I now see where all the places I've been reading you.

0:20.3

Oh my gosh,

0:21.1

you're prolific. Your editor of the national interest founded by my hero, Irving Crystal.

0:26.7

Interestingly, you began at that magazine and the first issue was editing Francis Fukuyama's

0:31.8

The End of History. That's quite a footnote in history. Senior editor of the New Republic, editorial writer for the LA Times, I think I may have started reading you there.

0:41.2

Published in the New York Times, I read you a lot in the New York Times. Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, definitely do not read that.

0:47.0

Financial Times, foreign affairs, Reuters, Washington Monthly Weekly Standard.

0:51.5

And even though it looks like he's about 23, he writes six articles a day,

0:56.8

and they're all brilliant. Arthur Burns Fellow, very impressive in Germany, Japan Society

1:03.3

Fellow, worst part of my life trying to learn intensive Japanese, George Kennan Award for

1:09.0

commentary on German-American Relations, and of great interest

1:13.3

to me and why I was so dying to have you on, was your article for the UK Spectator on

1:19.8

Trump's abominable speech last Wednesday. I should say I was having some people over for dinner.

1:25.8

We were definitely watching the clock. And luckily,

1:29.2

we're between courses when that speech came on. And these are some of my smartest friends.

1:34.6

And we're just like baffled afterwards. What is the point of that? It was like his greatest

1:40.5

hits. I was waiting for him to talk about how, you know, the 2020 election was stolen.

1:46.7

And he had the largest inaugural crowd. It was just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But anyway,

1:51.7

your article was titled Trump's Rambling Iran address was full of wishful thinking. And you made

1:57.5

so many great points in that. I want to say welcome Jacob Hal Abram and tell us

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