Unregistered 269: Einat Gerlitz and Iddo Elam

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🗓️ 9 February 2024

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Summary

I was joined by two young Israelis—Einat Gerlitz, who spent 87 days in prison for refusing to enlist in the Israel Defense Forces, and Iddo Elam, a 17-year-old draft resister who will go to prison this summer after he graduates from high school.

Einat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/einat16395854

Iddo's Twitter: https://twitter.com/iddoelam

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0:00.0	This is the Unregistered Podcast, and I'm Thaddeus Russell.
0:06.0	This is a show about ideas, people, and behaviors that are considered inappropriate, out of bounds, or beyond the pale.
0:14.0	The things you're not supposed to talk about if you're a schoolteacher, a college professor, a businessman, a politician,
0:22.6	a parent, a neighbor, or even a podcast host. These are the things you're not supposed to say
0:28.6	or even think if you're a good liberal, a good conservative, or a good citizen. Each week,
0:35.6	I'll interview a person who has something bad to say. They might be a
0:40.3	journalist or a professor. They might be a porn star or a drug dealer. They might just be an
0:45.9	ordinary person with an ordinary job who doesn't care about the rules of polite society.
0:51.9	I'm not interested in breaking the rules just to be a troublemaker.
0:55.5	I'm interested in people who break the rules of conventional thought and to expand the
1:00.3	scope of what is possible to say in our society.
1:03.5	I'm interested in people who make me think.
1:09.4	My guest this week are two Jewish- teenagers who, in a society in which devotion to the state, the military, and the current war against the Palestinians in Gaza, are all required, have refused to serve in the Israel defense forces and are willing to go to
1:30.2	prison for it.
1:32.9	This is my interview with Anat Gurlitz and Ido Elam.
1:42.2	I am joined from Tel Aviv by Anat Gurlitz and Ido Elam, who are, it must be annoying people talking about your age all the time, but we have to in this case.
1:53.3	I know it must be so annoying to be always called the young person, the teenager, the this age person, but, you know, you're 17. Is that right?
2:02.4	And I mean, what are you now?
2:08.6	I knew, are you 19 now? I'm 20 years old. 20 years old. All of 20 years old. Okay. You two are part of an organization called Messervote, which is a organization in Israel. You can tell me
2:17.4	what it is, but I think it's an organization that supports conscientious objectors.
2:21.6	And you two, you two have refused to serve in the Israeli defense forces.
2:27.9	And Enoch two years ago, is that right? You did it?
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