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Unregistered 250: Per Rudling

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Thaddeus Russell

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4.2706 Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2023

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

For our course at Unregistered Academy on the history of the relationship between the US and Ukraine, I conducted an interview with Professor Per Rudling of Lund University in Sweden, whose unpublished work on the decades-long collaboration between the CIA and Ukrainian Nazi collaborators reveals the source of the current Ukrainian government's official ideology and the origin of the war with Russia.

The US and Ukraine: Origins of the Russo-Ukrainian War at Unregistered Academy: https://www.unregisteredacademy.com/a...

Per Rudling's faculty page at Lund University, which includes links to his articles on the subject: https://www.hist.lu.se/en/person/PerA...

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0:00.0

I am absolutely thrilled to announce the Icarus Fringe and Film Festival coming up June 8th to the 11th at the William Carlos Williams Center in Rutherford, New Jersey.

0:12.7

This will be a four-day immense festival featuring the stars of the dissident left and right, including Max Blumenthal, Aaron Mate, Nick Gillespie,

0:24.5

Michael Tracy, Jeffrey Schoenberger, Sam Hussaini, Jeffrey Tucker, Gene Epstein, Jeremy Kaufman,

0:31.9

and Ben Burgess. To get your tickets to the Icarus Festival, go to Icarusfest.com, and I'll see you there.

0:43.6

This is the unregistered podcast, and I'm Thaddeus Russell.

0:47.8

This is a show about ideas, people, and behaviors that are considered inappropriate, out of bounds, or beyond the pale.

0:56.3

The things you're not supposed to talk about if you're a school teacher, a college professor,

1:01.1

a businessman, a politician, a parent, a neighbor, or even a podcast host.

1:07.5

These are the things you're not supposed to say or even think if you're a good liberal, a good conservative, or a good citizen.

1:14.6

Each week, I'll interview a person who has something bad to say.

1:19.6

They might be a journalist or a professor. They might be a porn star or a drug dealer.

1:24.6

They might just be an ordinary person with an ordinary job who doesn't

1:29.3

care about the rules of polite society. I'm not interested in breaking the rules just to be a

1:34.6

troublemaker. I'm interested in people who break the rules of conventional thought and to expand the

1:40.5

scope of what is possible to say in our society. I'm interested in people who make me think.

1:47.0

This past week at Unregistered Academy, we began teaching a course on the history of the relationship

2:03.6

between the United States and Ukraine, which began shortly after World War II, when the CIA began to finance and support a group of Ukrainian nationalists

2:14.6

who had collaborated with Nazi Germany during the war.

2:18.9

That relationship between the CIA and this group of Ukrainian Nazi collaborators

2:24.4

continued through the Cold War and up to the present time.

2:30.2

It produced the official ideology of the Ukrainian government, which led to the current war with Russia.

2:40.0

In this course at the Academy with students, I conducted an interview with Professor Per Rudling of Lund University in Sweden, whose research on this topic lays clear this history,

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