This is the Jaco Unraveling podcast episode 36 with Darrow Cooper and me Jaco Willink and

first of all apologies for the lack of Unraveling podcasts

I know there's so much going on in the world right now and so many things to talk about but I have been slacking

on the Unraveling front so I apologize, but certainly a lot to discuss and I

would say first and foremost the war in Ukraine which

Which we predicted would happen. Well, let's not say I appreciate you saying we

We collectively as as the Unraveling yes, we predicted and now it happened

It's almost eight months old at this point

It's not going as

Almost anyone expected it to go

But here we are eight months into a war extreme casualties

Just totally against what everyone fought

How this Unraveled Darrow what happened?

You talk about extreme casualties. That's one of the things right everything about this war is

Is really hard to pin down. It's really hard to know when you're looking at information that is even remotely

I saw casualty figures casualty estimates the other day and on the Ukrainian side it was like 6,000

To 160,000

Okay, how's that like just say zero and a million right and there was the same for the Russian side was like us 6,500 to

120,000

And it's like okay, so when you try to pick through all this stuff

It's really difficult some there's something that haunts me. There's been haunting me throughout this entire process

When I think about the fact that the same people and I don't mean the same groups like the institutions or anything like the exact same people

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