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The Stacking Benjamins Show

Unpacking Two Big Ideas: Infinite Banking and Saving For Young Children (SB1729)

The Stacking Benjamins Show

Joe Saul-Sehy and Josh ‘OG’ Bannerman, CFP

Education, Business, Money, Investing, Financial Planning, Cfp, Personal Finance, Retirement

4.42K Ratings

🗓️ 1 September 2025

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

Labor Day might be about rest, but in the basement, we’re getting to work on busting some of the most persistent myths in personal finance. Joe Saul-Sehy and OG welcome insurance pro Tony Steuer to unpack the shiny marketing around infinite banking and velocity banking. Spoiler: sometimes “be your own bank” really means “make your insurer rich.” From permanent life insurance pitfalls to the real math behind these strategies, Tony helps separate clever sales pitches from solid financial planning.

Then we shift gears to a conversation every parent, grandparent, and future gift-giver will love. Renowned financial journalist Chuck Jaffe joins the crew, fresh from becoming a grandfather, to share how he’s setting his new grandchild up for a strong financial future. Think stock portfolios for toddlers, early Roth IRA strategies, and simple systems that keep family generosity from getting lost in the shuffle. His practical, battle-tested tips will have you thinking differently about the best ways to give kids a head start.

Whether you’re looking to avoid costly detours or create generational wealth, this episode is equal parts cautionary tale and inspiration. You’ll walk away ready to dodge financial traps, build smarter for the next generation, and maybe even rethink your own long-term giving plans.

  • Why infinite and velocity banking aren’t the slam-dunk solutions they’re often sold as

  • How to spot the red flags in permanent life insurance pitches

  • Smart, tax-efficient ways to save for children and grandchildren

  • Creative strategies for gifting assets that grow with the child

  • The importance of balancing generosity with your own long-term goals


    Ideas to Ponder During Today's Episode

  • Have you ever been pitched an “innovative” financial strategy that didn’t feel quite right? What tipped you off?

  • What’s the most meaningful financial gift you’ve ever given—or received—as a child?

  • If you could give one piece of financial wisdom to the next generation, what would it be?

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Transcript

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0:00.0

It is Labor Day and you guys both showed up for work. What's going on? Free food. I was tricked. Well, whenever mom brings donuts all of a sudden we get, oh, we just got a podcast for a little bit, but I'll tell you what we're going to do, guys. You and I, we're going to keep it really easy because we got two great guests today. So all we got to do right now is raise our mug.

0:21.7

Raise your mugs because we do on Labor Day the same thing we do every other day. Look at that

0:27.1

Mickey Mouse, Stacky Benjamin's. And I've got- What am I looking at on yours? Is that a knee joint?

0:32.6

This is a beautiful waterfall near Portland, Oregon, where I'll be next week.

0:41.7

So on behalf of the men and women, make a podcast of Mom's Basement,

0:46.1

the men and women at Navy Federal Credit Union who serve our troops, thanks to those troops for keeping us safe, this beautiful holiday weekend.

0:50.3

It's all go stacks of measurements together now, shall we?

0:52.2

Wow.

0:52.6

Thanks, everybody.

0:54.5

Who's with me?

0:55.8

Yeah.

0:58.0

John!

1:00.4

All right.

1:01.9

Let's do this, people.

1:07.2

Live from Joe's Mom's Basement,

1:09.8

it's a special Labor Day episode of The Stacking Benjamin Show.

1:22.9

I'm Joe's Mom's Neighbor, Doug, and today's the day when you relax and our special guests do all the work.

1:29.3

Here to entertain that little money nerd in your brain, we welcome two pros with tips to help you get ahead.

1:36.2

First, have you ever wondered about this idea called infinite banking or velocity banking?

1:41.7

While people selling it tout the virtues, should you be worried?

1:45.6

We'll talk permanent insurance, banking, and more with Life Insurance Pro Tony Stewart.

1:51.7

And in the second half of this special episode, if you've met journalist and host of the

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