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Stay Tuned with Preet

Unpacking The Russian Threat (with Masha Gessen)

Stay Tuned with Preet

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Society & Culture, Politics, Government

4.832.4K Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2022

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

What do the January 6 Committee’s subpoenas to Rudy Giuliani and other Trump lawyers say about the progress of the investigation? What did we learn from New York AG Letitia James’ late-night court filing accusing the Trump family of “fraudulent or misleading” practices? Preet answers listener questions. Then, Preet interviews Masha Gessen, author and staff writer at The New Yorker. They discuss the escalating conflict between Russia and Ukraine, the motivation behind President Vladimir Putin’s efforts to grab power across Eastern Europe, and the dismantling of democratic forces in both Russia and the U.S.    For show notes and a transcript of the episode, head to: https://cafe.com/stay-tuned/unpacking-the-russian-threat-with-masha-gessen/ Don’t miss the Insider Bonus, where Preet asks Gessen a series of lightning round questions:  Tweet your questions to @PreetBharara with hashtag #askpreet, email us at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 669-247-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Senior Editorial Producer: Adam Waller; Technical Director: David Tatasciore; Audio Producer: Nat Weiner; Editorial Producers: Noa Azulai, Sam Ozer-Staton, and David Kurlander. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

From Cafe and the Vox Media Podcast Network, welcome to Stay Tuned.

0:05.0

I'm Pete Barara.

0:07.0

Ukrainians saw a war just a few years ago, and in fact, I've had this ongoing conflict

0:13.0

in the east of the country.

0:14.0

But there's just something awful about that dread and that sense of powerlessness, and

0:20.0

knowing that your life is being taken away from you in ways you can't predict, and you

0:27.3

won't probably be able to account for years to come.

0:35.3

That's Masha Gesson.

0:36.3

Gesson is a staff writer at the New Yorker, an author of 11 books, including The Future

0:41.8

Is History, How Totalitarianism Reclaimed Russia, which won the National Book Award in

0:47.3

2017.

0:48.3

Gesson has long paid careful attention to the retreat of democracy, and the rise of

0:52.8

autocratic leaders around the world, especially Russian President Vladimir Putin.

0:57.7

We discuss the escalating conflict between Russia and Ukraine, the similarities and differences

1:02.1

between Donald Trump and Putin, and how Gesson felt the calling of journalism from the

1:06.5

tender age of four years old.

1:09.3

That's coming up.

1:10.8

Stay tuned.

1:16.1

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1:18.8

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1:28.0

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