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Welcome back to Gabby with Gibb.

I'm your host, Gibson, Johns. And today on the show, we have a really great chat with Shemira Ibrahim, who is a culture writer who writes about reality TV for Vulture. And she recently wrote this really great piece centered on the Real Housewives of Atlanta and how sort of nostalgia for the, you know, the good old days of the show, the golden era of the show is hindering the current era, this new season's ability to really thrive, both in the minds

of fans and also in the dynamics playing out on the show. And we had a really great conversation.

And I loved the piece. So I wanted to have Shamira on to go deeper on some of the thoughts that

she mentions in the piece, share my thoughts on them. We on to go deeper on some of the thoughts that she mentions in the

piece, share my thoughts on them. We bring up Roney because that's also another franchise that this

idea of nostalgia sort of getting in the way of the future of a franchise sort of plays out on that

one as well. So we had a really great conversation and I really think you'll enjoy it. It's about

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