Unpacking the OG Ponzi Scheme (with Adam Grant)
SNAFU with Ed Helms
iHeartPodcasts
4.6 • 1.7K Ratings
🗓️ 4 February 2026
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
Adam Grant is a thinker. The kind of thinking that makes you think twice. Which is precisely what the victims of a certain financial fraud deployment have been told throughout history. But today, Ed and Adam head to the top of this pyramid, to unveil the origin of the ultimate form of foul play: The Ponzi Scheme.
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| 0:00.0 | That's exactly the kind of weaponization of charisma that makes me extremely uncomfortable. |
| 0:05.7 | In fact, I need to go take a shower right now. |
| 0:07.9 | Can you hold? |
| 0:10.9 | No, we can't wait for you to take you. |
| 0:13.7 | We're going to have to go with you into the shower. |
| 0:15.5 | I'm afraid. |
| 0:16.1 | It's just the rules. |
| 0:17.1 | That's also very creepy. |
| 0:31.3 | This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. |
| 0:40.0 | 1969, Malcolm and Martin are gone. America is in crisis. At a Morehouse college, the students make their move. |
| 0:48.0 | These students, including a young Samuel L. Jackson, locked up the members of the Board of Trustees, including Martin Luther King's Senior. |
| 0:53.4 | It's the true story of protests and rebellion in black American history that you'll never forget. |
| 0:54.9 | I'm Hans Charles. I'm Manilic Lamououber. Listen to the A-building on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your |
| 1:01.4 | podcasts. When segregation was a law, one mysterious black club owner, Charlie Fitzgerald, had his own rules. |
| 1:09.2 | Segregation and the day integration at night. |
| 1:12.2 | It was like stepping on another world. |
| 1:14.6 | Was he a businessman? |
| 1:16.0 | A criminal. |
| 1:17.5 | A hero. |
| 1:18.7 | Charlie was an example of power. |
| 1:21.6 | They had to crush him. |
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