Unpacking Polygamy: Wrestling with 132, with Bethany Brady Spalding, Patrick Mason, and Bill Turnbull

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🗓️ 8 November 2025

⏱️ 106 minutes

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Today we’re wrapping up our week of Unpacking Polygamy with a very honest, illuminating and challenging conversation among three faithful friends: Bethany Brady Spaulding, Patrick Mason and Bill Turnbull. Together, they tackle the profound theological problems that polygamy presents, particularly as it is laid out in what is perhaps the most challenging scripture in our canon—Section 132 of the Doctrine and Covenants. They compare and contrast Section 132 with what God has revealed else...

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0:32.8	Hey, everybody, this is Aubrey Chavez from Faith Matters. Today we're wrapping up our week
0:37.3	of unpacking
0:38.1	polygamy with a very honest, illuminating, and challenging conversation among three faithful friends,
0:43.6	Bethany Brady Spalding, Patrick Mason, and Bill Turnbull. Today they tackle the profound theological
0:48.7	problems that polygamy presents, particularly as it's laid out in what is perhaps the most
0:53.3	challenging scripture in our canon,
0:55.3	Section 132 of the Doctrine and Covenants. They compare and contrast Section 132 with what God
1:00.6	is revealed elsewhere in Scripture and with what the church actually teaches today. And they consider
1:05.4	the question of whether it's possible for the church to actually move on from polygamy if Section 132
1:10.8	continues to be taught
1:11.8	as inspired scripture along the way they celebrate the restore gospel's teaching of a higher and
1:16.7	holier order of celestial union couples sealed together for eternity as intimate equal partners
1:21.9	this conversation was originally inspired by an essay written by bill and susan turnbull two of faith
1:27.2	matters founders titled one couples wrestle with polygamy which we published on the faith was originally inspired by an essay written by Bill and Susan Turnbull, two of Faith Matters founders,
1:28.5	titled One Couples Ressel with Polygamy, which we published on the faithmatters.org website.
1:33.1	It's a fascinating and compelling piece, and we encourage you to check it out.
1:36.6	You can also find Bill's essay on the Abrahamic test, which is also mentioned in the conversation.
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