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Hey, everybody, this is Aubrey Chavez from Faith Matters. Today I'm so excited to welcome our guest,

Nate Oman. He's a law professor, a scholar, and co-founder of the pioneering Latter-day Saint

blog, Times and Seasons. Our conversation begins with a bold idea that experiencing a stupor of

thought or being troubled is very often a prelude to revelation. And for Nate, facing discomfort head on, naming it and wrestling with it, has become a sacred part of his discipleship and a path to deeper faith.

And so in that spirit, today we're taking a hard and honest look at the doctrine of sealing,

where it came from, the ways that it's evolved, and how it became intertwined with plural marriage. Nate helps us trace

its roots through the earliest iterations in Latter-day Saint theology, and he wrestles openly with

what it all means for us now. While this episode doesn't offer easy answers, it reveals how our

efforts to connect the human family throughout our history have been both human and divine,

and that if we're willing to look closely,

even at the messiness, we might find ourselves stretched toward greater light and deeper understanding

and a more generous, expansive faith. And just a reminder, this episode is part of a five-part

series on polygamy. We invite you to listen to all five episodes for a range of perspectives

and voices on this important topic. And now

here's our conversation with Nate Oman. Nate, thanks so much for coming on the podcast.

We've been so excited to talk to you and we're just really grateful that you're here. So

welcome. Thank you. I wanted to start with something that you wrote in a piece that I love

about this concept of studying it out.

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