It's all about being resilient and self-reliant, right? It's all about being a man needing

no one and having no emotional response to the external world whatsoever, right? Well,

if that's what you think stoicism is and you like to learn what actual capital S stoicism

is, the ancient Greek and Roman philosophy and virtue ethics framework centered around developing

a good character and service to the cosmopolists, then hi, I'm Tanner Campbell, and I'd like

to invite you to subscribe to my podcast, Practical Stoicism. Every weekday I release a new episode

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My good friend Adam Grant, author and psychology professor at UPEN, has a new book out, Hidden

Potential, The Science of Achieving Greater Things. He sent me a draft months ago. I told

Adam, I love it so much that when it comes out, I want to sit down and interview you about

it and we'll run the interview in the revisionist history feed. Sure enough, Hidden Potential

has now come out. And on Adam's publication day, he came to New York and joined me on stage

at the 92nd Street Y for what turned out to be a really, really fun conversation. As

we always have whenever we get together, so here it is.

Thank you. Thank you all for coming. Adam, thank you for coming to New York. You know,

we have done this many times. We have, and it's usually on my turf, not yours.

This is what I was about to say. I was going to ask you, what is different this time around?

You, that's exactly right. You have finally come to my house and I was reflecting on this

and I was wondering, what kind of an idiot am I that I have agreed to go to your turf

like seven times in a row before demanding that we return to favor? This is like a, you

know, in basketball. This is like someone's seating, you know, home territory and saying,

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