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UNLOCKED: The Sumud Flotilla Interview feat. Zue Jernstedt

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🗓️ 30 September 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Zue Jernstedt joins us live from the Global Sumud Flotilla to talk to us about delivering aid to those in Gaza and weathering attacks from Israel.

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0:00.0

All right. Hello, everybody. It's Will here, and I'm coming at you with a bonus joppa today. And

0:06.7

joining me on the call is someone, much like Wiley Odysseus, who's calling in from the middle of the

0:12.6

Mediterranean. Right now I'm speaking with Zhu Jernstedt, who is a volunteer on the global

0:18.7

Samud flotilla heading to Gaza right now.

0:21.3

Zhu, welcome.

0:22.3

Thanks for having me.

0:23.6

Zoo, I want to get into just every step of this journey on your Odyssey heading to

0:28.9

Gaza right now.

0:29.9

But could you just tell us a little bit about yourself, who you are, where you're from, and

0:34.1

how you came to join this lotilla?

0:36.1

I'm actually a member of about Face, Veterans Against the War.

0:39.3

I'm a former army soldier and I served in Afghanistan.

0:44.3

So I joined with the flotilla after I had been in Palestine last year doing protective presence.

0:50.3

Once I saw what was happening on the ground in Palestine in the West Bank, I absolutely knew that I wanted to do something to help in Gaza.

0:59.1

And this was the first opportunity we really had to do, like, actually bring food to someone.

1:05.3

Could you tell me a little bit about the vessel that you're on now?

1:09.1

Who are your shipmates?

1:13.3

And what are the conditions like for you right now?

1:25.5

So I am on a 14-meter sailboat. We are considered the U.S. Veterans boat, the O'ILA. I'm on the boat with some other Americans, and we have a few internationals with us.

1:44.8

Right now, the water is pretty decent. We just had to start motoring, though, because we can't sail through the night because the last time we tried to sail through the night, they bombed our sails. Well, I want to get into some of the attacks that you've had to weather so far, but like where did this journey begin? Like, how did you go from America?

1:49.9

Where did you first board this vessel? And like, how was this flotilla organized? So I got on in Barcelona. I've actually been on the boat 30 days now, which is almost twice as long as the journey

1:56.8

was supposed to be. I got brought on by my Palestinian-American friend that I worked with in Palestine

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