Unlocked: The China Consensus and Trump's Xi Meeting w/ Jake Werner

American Prestige

Daniel Bessner & Derek Davison

News, History, Politics

4.8 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 June 2026

⏱️ 118 minutes

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We unlocked this episode so that everyone could hear this great interview with Jake Werner on China. To get more AP discussions like this, subscribe now! Danny and Derek are once again joined by Jake Werner, director of the East Asia Program at ⁠the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft⁠, this time to talk about the development of the U.S. consensus on China. They delve into the neoliberal engagement with China, the 2008 financial crisis, Xi Jinping’s response, Trump’s first-term China policy, and the Biden administration’s approach. They then analyze Trump’s meeting with Xi Jinping, tariffs, rare earths, Taiwan, Iran, and the prospects for stabilizing U.S.-China relations. Read Jake’s piece “An Opening for a New US–China Economic Relationship.” Follow Quincy on YouTube. And, of course, subscribe to our YouTube channel! Originally released May 17, 2026 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:56.3	Hello, Prestige Heads, and welcome to American Prestige.
0:59.3	I'm Danny Bessner, here as always with my friend in Comrade, Derek Davidson.
1:03.7	And we're very excited to welcome back to the podcast today, Jake Warner.
1:08.1	Jake is the director of the East Asia program at the Quincy Institute for Responsible
1:12.5	Statecraft and a historian by trading. So I always enjoy having Jake on. Thanks for joining us again.
1:18.0	Yeah, great to be back. So Jake, you sent me a piece that's in draft, but I really want to talk about it,
1:23.4	which is basically tracing one of the largest transformations in the history of American
1:31.2	thinking about the world in the last 10 or so years, which is the transformation of China
1:38.4	from a country that the United States was trying to embed in the neoliberal capitalist world order,
1:45.6	a country through which that the United States understood to be competing with,
1:49.2	and maybe didn't like everything that it did, particularly cyber espionage.
1:53.1	I sound like a 90s movie person cyber.
1:55.9	I feel like that's such an old term, but people still use it in this particular sphere,
2:00.7	but into something that both
2:02.2	parties have embraced as effectively an existential enemy of the United States, akin to how
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