[UNLOCKED] Lebanon Pt. 1: Resisting Occupation w/ Hussein Assaf
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🗓️ 17 March 2026
⏱️ 64 minutes
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This is an unlocked version of the episode "Lebanon Pt. 1: Resisting Occupation w/ Hussein Assaf."
In Part 1 of our new series on Lebanon, Hussein Assaf joins us to discuss the ongoing assault on Lebanon by Israel and the United States. Hussein Assaf is a journalist with Vocal Politics based out of Beirut.
Our conversation begins with an update on the ongoing assault on Lebanon by Israel and backed by the United States. We then talk about the political forces at play in Lebanon, giving a brief history of the political makeup of the country to help put the current assault in context. We talk about Hezbollah and the relationship it has with the Islamic Republic, unpacking the common talking point in the West that Hezbollah is an Iranian "regime" proxy and instead providing a more appropriate analysis (and in doing so, giving insight into how the United States treats its proxies). We close on a discussion on the information and psychological warfare that is a part of the US and Israel's assault on West Asia and on its own populations at home.
Just a quick note: this episode is a bit of a non-traditional Part 1 to a series as it goes into a bit more depth into current events and is not as focused on a providing a more complete historical context for Lebanon like our other series do. If you want to understand what's happening at the moment, this is a great starting point. In the future we will provide even more historical context and take deeper dives into Lebanon's history and politics.
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Related episodes:
- Listen to our ongoing series on Lebanon
- Listen to our ongoing series on Iran
- Listen to our ongoing series on Palestine
- Listen to our ongoing series on China
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| 0:00.0 | The people of the South, especially since it's bordering with Palestine, are still defending |
| 0:25.8 | their land, are saying no to Israel, because as I mentioned earlier, this is an existential |
| 0:30.6 | war for them. |
| 0:31.6 | This is not just a passing days of fighting, as some might call it, it's an existential war for them it's either |
| 0:39.0 | Lebanon becomes an entire US Israeli settlement or we can defend again for our country |
| 0:48.6 | and try to maintain some kind of sovereignty and not allow the Israelis to expand and turn Lebanon |
| 0:57.9 | or southern Lebanon where they will be mainly present as troops into another settlement. |
| 1:04.3 | You are listening to Upstream. |
| 1:06.3 | Upstream. |
| 1:07.3 | Upstream. |
| 1:08.3 | Upstream. |
| 1:09.3 | A show about political economy and society that invites you to unlearn everything you thought you |
| 1:14.6 | knew about the world around you. |
| 1:16.6 | I'm Della Duncan. |
| 1:17.6 | And I'm Robert Raymond. |
| 1:19.6 | The price of sovereignty in this world is high. |
| 1:22.6 | If you refuse to bow down to the dictates of the world's hegemon you are subject to any variety |
| 1:28.7 | of punishments stretching from sanctions to genocide. And yet people resist. They fight back. And |
| 1:37.4 | what we're seeing right now in Lebanon is the price paid for that resistance. In this episode, part one of our new series on Lebanon, |
| 1:47.4 | were joined by Hussein Asaf to discuss the ongoing assault on Lebanon by Israel and backed |
| 1:54.8 | by the United States. |
| 1:56.9 | Hussein is a Beirut-based journalist with local politics, a Patreon listener-funded independent |
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