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UNLOCKED: Leaving S-Factor (w/Jessica Hopper)

Conspirituality

Derek Beres, Matthew Remski, Julian Walker

Philosophy, Science, Society & Culture, Social Sciences

4.02.2K Ratings

🗓️ 4 February 2023

⏱️ 174 minutes

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Summary

Those who fly high, fall hard. Pole dance company S-Factor crashed and burned in 2021 amidst a stack of complaints. Detractors said the company was conducting unlicensed group therapy, cosplaying enlightenment by co-opting the labour of sex workers, and whitewashing issues of racial equality.Created by former actor Sheila Kelley, S-Factor monetized pole dancing as a path of feminist and spiritual awakening.In this 2-part Listener Story, Matthew speaks to Jessica Hopper about her 13 years learning and teaching in the now-defunct company. Hopper paints a picture of a confusing, high-demand group, and tells us how she made her way out. NOTE: During our discussion, Jessica recounts a tense all-hands S-factor staff meeting to discuss PR strategy at a crucial moment as the company cracked-up over issues of white fragility. I wasn't able to secure a recording of that call before my interview with Jessica, or since. But after we recorded, I did confirm what Jessica reports about it with 3 of the other participants on that call.  MRShow NotesStripped Down: The Undoing of Hollywood's Favorite Pole-Dancing Studio —Hollywood Reporter."Strip Down, Rise Up" | Official Trailer | NetflixFaces of Fierce Femininity—online conference organized by Kelly BroganVisual Pleasure and Narrative Cinema—Laura Mulvey, 1975 -- -- --Support us on PatreonPre-order Conspirituality: How New Age Conspiracy Theories Became a Health Threat: America | Canada Follow us on Instagram | Twitter: Derek | Matthew | JulianOriginal music by EarthRise SoundSystem Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is a Glassbox Media Podcast.

0:08.5

Conspirituality Podcast is now presented by Glassbox Media.

0:14.0

If you're hearing this message, you're listening on the main feed where you will hear ads.

0:19.0

For an ad-free listening experience, you can join us at patreon.com

0:24.0

Backslash Conspirituality.

0:31.0

Welcome everybody to this edition of Conspirituality Podcast Listener Stories.

0:36.0

My name is Matthew.

0:37.0

This is the second in what's going to be an ongoing series in which we'll discuss your entanglements

0:43.0

with Conspirituality and cults, how you got into them, how you managed the difficult things,

0:50.0

but also unexpected things that happened along the way, and also very importantly,

0:54.0

how you pulled yourself out, how you recovered.

0:57.0

And today, I'm very happy to be joined by Jessica Hopper from Los Angeles.

1:02.0

Hello, Jessica.

1:03.0

Hi, Matthew.

1:04.0

Thank you so much for taking the time.

1:06.0

Thank you for having me.

1:08.0

Yeah, and I want to say that this is just not an easy subject.

1:14.0

Today, you have your own rich experience with S-Factor as an organization

1:20.0

and everything that you went through with it.

1:23.0

And as a cult survivor and somebody who researches cults,

1:26.0

I'm fairly familiar with a number of the red flags that you raised

1:31.0

and that you've raised in our conversations before this.

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