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This Wreckage

UNLOCKED - C*mmunization Th**ry w/ Aaron Benanav

This Wreckage

Sean KB and AP Andy

Arts, Music

4.2970 Ratings

🗓️ 16 June 2021

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Now unlocked for non-patrons, Jamie and Sean with Aaron discuss the political implications of his research on automation and the future of work. If UBI and Keynesian stimulus is insufficient, what sort of movements and measures might be adequate to the present moment?

Outro: Rolling Stones - Luxury

You can get Aaron's excellent book at, where else, verso: https://www.versobooks.com/books/3717-automation-and-the-future-of-work

Transcript

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0:00.0

I really wanted to mention just now,

0:05.0

before he like cut it off

0:11.6

the role the prisons play in all of this.

0:15.0

Because I've been thinking a lot about prisons lately

0:18.0

and the role that they serve in capitalism,

0:22.0

specifically to, you know know as a pool for this reserve army of

0:26.4

labor the surplus population and it serves to both keep them from

0:31.8

causing trouble and just warehouses them until such time as capital needs

0:39.5

more workers.

0:42.0

That's a huge part of the picture yeah and it's like a lot cheaper to you know I mean

0:49.6

who said that

0:55.0

like the idea of like it's you know employee one half of the working class to like beat up the other

0:56.4

half was Gould the railroad tycoon in the 19th century.

1:00.4

Yeah so it's like it's just a lot cheaper to have a punitive state, right, than to have a welfare state. And so it totally makes sense that in the U. dispends like an incredibly small portion of its

1:16.5

income on welfare programs and where those programs are so heavily means tested as like part of the history of the racism of this country that the main way they deal with people who don't have work and were poor

1:33.0

is to like subject them to intense police scrutiny

1:36.6

and threat of death and then of course

1:38.4

to police murder and then to like throw them in this massive in prison. I mean it's a really terrible and

1:47.3

dark story. And it's been going on for a while now and

1:56.0

thankfully we saw, I think, I'm not sure if we call it a rebellion or an

2:00.4

insurrection, but you know, let's not forget a few months ago we saw the the

2:05.3

social tender we saw things light a flame and it seems like it's died off now but

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