UNLOCKED! Bonus Ep#5 Downfall (2004)
I Don't Speak German
IDSG
3.9 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 16 June 2022
⏱️ 96 minutes
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Summary
We haven't given you, our non-paying listeners, a bonus episode since Christmas, so have a summer present. It's our bonus episode - originally for Patreon backers only - on 2004's Downfall, the acclaimed German movie (good thing there are subtitles because... y'know) about the last days of Hitler and his assorted hangers-on in the bunker as the Red Army grind their way into Berlin. Spoiler: he shoots himself.
It's a complex, flawed, fascinating movie, and both of your hosts have complicated feelings about it.
Downfall (2004 film) - Wikipedia
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| 0:00.0 | By continuing to be in the meeting you are sending to being recorded all right. Oh apparently they've |
| 0:05.2 | they've had some some some lawyers got involved in this whole thing apparently. So yeah. Yeah. |
| 0:12.2 | Probably. I mean, I would say it's never a good sign when lawyers get involved but we are talking |
| 0:17.9 | about the tech industries. Yeah. It's kind of like a libra shrugged. It's like, well, I mean, |
| 0:28.2 | the banks are terrible but they are dealing with Facebook and so yeah. It turns out the multinational |
| 0:35.3 | banks are the good guys in the situation. They are at least theoretically supposed to have some |
| 0:39.6 | rules that they stick by, you know. Yeah. Well, I mean, or like, you know, when the Red Army is |
| 0:44.1 | bombing Berlin in 1935, sort of well. Yeah. Is the Red Army a completely unimpeachable organization? |
| 0:54.1 | No. Well, I mean, Stalin, Stalin was terrorists. Stalin was one of history's greatest monsters, |
| 1:00.0 | but Hitler. Yeah. That's really, I mean, that's just that's just an argument winning move, isn't it? |
| 1:06.9 | Well, I mean, that that is the Godwin thing, isn't it? But Hitler, you know, because it is the |
| 1:13.6 | nuke. It's the nuclear option. It just wins the argument immediately. But Hitler, you know, Hitler |
| 1:18.8 | was on the other side of that. So, you know, whatever. Yeah, I mean, if you know, if one side is |
| 1:24.7 | Hitler, then pretty much by definition, the other side is at least preferable, you know. |
| 1:33.2 | If you have to pick a side, you know, the side that isn't Hitler is pretty much always the |
| 1:37.7 | best off. Yeah, non-Hitler is the one to go for. I would say generally. |
| 1:42.8 | The hard to fight a cat or example to that, you know. Yeah, it's like Robert Evans talking |
| 1:49.6 | about, you know, one of the episodes behind the bastards he was talking about, like, yeah, |
| 1:54.0 | then one of Hitler tried to commit suicide and his friend talked him out of it. And, |
| 1:59.6 | usually you think talking to someone out of suicide, you're universal good. Maybe if you're |
| 2:05.6 | afraid to sit there, go, yeah, no, that probably wouldn't find, you know, yeah. |
| 2:12.3 | Yeah, first world war, you know, 99 times out of 100, my, my exaltation to the |
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