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That's kind of conversation to your soul.

That's conversation between your'm D'Amany. I'm Danny Bessner, here as always with my friend and Comrade Derek Davidson.

And we are very excited to welcome back to the podcast today, the blowback boys, the blowback bros.

And that is, of course, Brendan James and Noah Colan, who just released their latest season of the fantastic series, blowback, which I have been listening to for years. And many of you have as well, and link in the show notes, if you haven't gotten this last season. But this season is on Angola, and we're excited to talk about it. So thanks for joining us, guys. Thank you. Thanks for having us. I felt like that was a little drive time morning DJ, so you're welcome. So why don't we just dump,

dump, why don't we just jump right in and tell us why Angola and maybe how does this fit into

the larger blowback project that you guys have been doing for a while now? And kind of a thesis

has emerged, I think, at least over the seasons. But I'm curious,

how does this fit in? What do you guys think you're doing with the blowback series in general and all

that stuff? Well, I think one thing we realized this season, because there's a way that it manifests,

particularly with Angola and around the time of this season is we've been providing a little bit

at first not knowing it a history of American Contras. You know, the foot soldiers of the Cold War

that we sort of subcontracted in the different hotspots across the globe. I mean, in the season on Cuba, we talked about

the Cuban exiles who became very important in different parts of Latin America.

There's obviously the Mujahideen that we covered in season four. And we haven't done a season

on the actual Nicaraguan Contras, but one could imagine us doing so.

And the contras this season were more or less slotted into the forces opposing Angola's

Marxist government at the time.

These would be the fighters of Unita, led by Jonas Savimbi, and supported by

apartheid South Africa. And there was actually a conference that was set up at Savimbi's

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