Welcome to the intersection of faith in the culture. This is wall builders. We're taking

on the hot topics of the day from a biblical historical and constitutional perspective

and we're going to dive right in. All right, David and Tim, we've got Congresswoman

Virginia Fox going to join us later in the program from North Carolina. We're going to

be talking about education and actually, David, I mean, this is what got you started

on wall builders was looking at a prayer being removed from schools and why the culture

was going the wrong direction once we changed education in that way. So you've been in

the battle for education and standards at the state level, you know, setting the standards

for social studies and other subjects and all that for for decades now. I think more

people are awake to it than ever. You know, you've been involved longer than I have, but

it seems like this is the newest, you know, the strongest wake up call as people watched

what was going on at their local schools. So maybe we have a better chance than ever

to improve education in America. You know, way back years ago, Rick, you mentioned

that we got involved early, one of the early statements that I read that was attributed

to Abraham Lincoln, he said, the philosophy, the school room in one generation, be the

philosophy of government in the next. And so even 20 years ago, as we saw things start

turning in wrong directions, we were saying it's education. We got to get schools on

and got to fix it. And parents said, well, it's not my schools. It's not my kids. It's

not that going on. And then I guess as 15 years ago, we saw that about it was almost half

of those who were going to Christian universities were announcing their faith at Christian University

and around 80 to 90% were doing a secular university, saying, guys, it's education. And even

15 years ago, that was not a big resonating kind of thing. But now as parents have found

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