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Makdisi Street

"Universities are complicit in Palestinian unfreedom" w/ Maya Wind

Makdisi Street

Bayt al Makdisi

News, Politics

4.9644 Ratings

🗓️ 19 June 2024

⏱️ 92 minutes

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Summary

The brothers welcome Maya Wind, the author of Towers of Ivory and Steel, a searing critique of the Israeli academic establishment's complicity in the regime of apartheid and genocide. They discuss the role played by Israeli universities in the establishment and maintenance of the Zionist project in Palestine, the nexus between universities and political repression and military violence, the appalling treatment of Professor Nadera Shalhoub-Kevorkian, and the urgent need for an academic boycott of the Israeli university system.

Towers of Ivory and Steel: How Israeli Universities Deny Palestinian Freedom (2024) 
https://www.versobooks.com/en-ca/products/3009-towers-of-ivory-and-steel

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Date of recording: June 5, 2024.

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what we're seeing right now is a radical break from that, that we are seeing a generation of

0:05.6

students who say we refuse to live in a world where Palestinian lives are, do not matter.

0:11.3

We refuse to live in a world where the Palestine exception is allowed to stand.

0:15.2

We refuse to live in a world where our own universities are directly complicit through their

0:20.3

investments and through their ties to the Israeli university system in Palestinian on freedom.

0:25.6

And so this is a radical break from a consensus in the U.S. Academy and in the Western Academy more broadly that has been allowed to stand for far too long.

0:44.6

Hello, everyone, and welcome to a new episode of the Makdasi Street podcast.

0:49.3

My name is Sari Makdasi, and I'm joined, as always, by my brothers, Osama and Karim.

0:51.7

And we have today a special guest, Maya Wind.

0:56.0

We'll be talking about her new book and the general framing of the,

1:00.6

of Israeli universities and their complicity in Israel's apartheid system.

1:03.8

I want to just remind our listeners, as always,

1:08.4

to please give us a five-star rating on the various podcast platforms,

1:12.0

not for our vanity, but rather because it helps boost the visibility of the podcast and all of the algorithms that these platforms use. And if you're interested

1:17.4

in our Patreon channel, we have one now. If you're able to subscribe, that's great. It helps,

1:21.9

it helps, covers the cost of the program. And we just did a Patreon Q&A that will be up on our Patreon channel very soon.

1:29.3

So for this week, we're happy to welcome Maya Wynne to the program, as I said.

1:33.3

Maya is a Killam postdoctoral fellow in the Department of Anthropology at the University of British Columbia and Canada.

1:40.3

Her scholarship broadly investigates how settler societies, including the ones that Osama Maya and I live in right now, Canada and the U.S.,

1:49.7

settler societies and global systems of militarism and policing are sustained with a particular focus on the reproduction and export of Israeli security expertise.

2:00.6

She's the author of the amazing book,

2:03.0

Towers of Ivory and Steel, How Israeli Universities Deny Palestinian Freedom, which is published by

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