This month the Court of Appeal told a woman from Somerset that she must make a definitive

break from a socially harmful cult or face losing custody of her daughter.

Most of their activity has been based around a hotel, a guest house called the Lighthouse.

Somehow, a former tennis coach from Australia claiming to be the reincarnation of Leonardo da Vinci gained a devoted following.

And then he started talking about how some of this pain and agony that people were screaming about was because they were an archangel in their past life.

But why do cults persist and is the law tough enough on their leaders?

You're listening to stories about times from the Times and the Sunday Times.

I'm David Aronovich.

Today, the organization called Universal Medicine, taking on a cult.

In this episode we follow the Australian woman who spent a decade exposing the leader of Universal Medicine, Serge Benayon. Accusations

against him have been both bizarre and troubling, and we hear the story of a British woman

who believes her family has been destroyed by the group. I'm Darren Brown. I've made a career out of learning the inner workings of a brilliantly messed up brains.

So together with the help of powerful human stories, expert advice, and the odd experiment

will help you wrestle control over your life, fears and emotions. The complete Derham Brown boot camp series listen now on

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I first heard about them a couple of weeks beforehand when I read a small news report in the Times.

Rosie Kinchen is a feature writer at the Sunday Times who recently came across an obscure group, Universal Medicine.

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