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Stuff You Missed in History Class

United States v. Bhagat Singh Thind

Stuff You Missed in History Class

iHeartPodcasts

History, Society & Culture

4.224.1K Ratings

🗓️ 11 May 2026

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

United States v. Bhagat Singh Thind was a 1923 case that hinged on what it meant to be white.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed Human.

0:05.4

Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production of IHeart Radio.

0:16.0

Hello and welcome to the podcast.

0:18.1

I'm Tracy V. Wilson.

0:19.7

And I'm Holly Fry.

0:21.6

Today's episode is one I have thought about doing for really many years, and I moved it up to the top of the list after I heard a clip from the oral arguments in Trump v. Barbara.

0:34.0

That is the U.S. Supreme Court case on the question of whether Executive Order 14160,

0:41.5

protecting the meaning and value of American citizenship, is consistent with the 14th Amendment to the Constitution,

0:48.0

which is the part that reads, quote, all persons born or naturalized in the United States,

0:53.8

and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction

0:55.1

thereof are citizens of the United States and of the state we're in. They reside. So this Supreme

1:01.2

Court case involves three families whose children were born in the United States, but they would

1:05.9

not be considered citizens under this executive order because of their parents' residency status.

1:11.5

The parents include an asylum applicant, someone who was on a student visa, and somebody

1:17.3

who was in the process of applying for permanent residency.

1:20.7

So during these oral arguments, Justice Sonia Sotomayor said to Solicitor General John Sauer, quote,

1:29.8

When we ruled in thinned that Indians could not become citizens,

1:34.9

the government then after began to unnaturalize many Indians who had been sworn in as citizens.

1:42.7

She went on to ask whether the logic that Sauer was using in his

1:46.4

arguments would lead to the same thing happening again. So that quote from Sotomayor and the

1:52.6

idea that the U.S. stripped people of their citizenship based on their nation of origin,

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