This is a case.

This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Tuesday, August 3rd, 2021.

I'm Caleb Brown.

Three years since the Supreme Court's Janus decision,

the fallout has been especially pronounced in Michigan where unionization

has traditionally been very strong.

What does that mean for the future of politics and the Democratic coalition nationally?

Jarrett Scorrup is with the Mackinoff Center.

He discusses the steep decline in public sector unionization in Michigan.

Since the Janus decision in 2018, there was, I guess everybody's sort of holding their breath for a while.

What does this mean for union membership? What does this mean for union clout with

respect to public sector unions because that's what the decision was about

extending previous rulings on

unionization and whether or not you can be compelled to be a member.

So what have we seen in Michigan?

So Michigan was unique. You had these series of Midwest states where Indiana and then Michigan and then Wisconsin all became right to work states about five years or so before Janus.

So they were starting to see this drop in union membership

and then Janus to an extent kind of turbocharged that.

But we've been tracking, you know,

Machinosters Michigan-based think tanks,

so we track those numbers very carefully.

They're really the big players in politics in Michigan.

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