Unintended Consequences in a Complex World | Frankly 91
The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
Nate Hagens
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🗓️ 18 April 2025
⏱️ 7 minutes
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Summary
As current events continue to accelerate around us, there is no better time to pause and view the rapid changes unfolding around us through a broader, systemic perspective. It's only by slowing down and adopting this holistic lens that we can begin to meaningfully prepare for what lies ahead.
In this short edition of Frankly, Nate dives into the theme of unintended consequences across energy, environmental issues, and social movements.. Through this lens, we understand the importance of looking two or three steps ahead of today's actions and see the - sometimes unwanted - ripple effects in the future.
Why are some movements facing backlash in today's political landscape, despite decades of progress and education? What lessons can we draw from these outcomes to become more effective agents of change? And how do we stay grounded in humility and openness as we navigate further unexpected consequences in the future?
(Recorded April 16, 2025)
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| 0:00.0 | Greetings. I woke up this morning and was going to do a frankly on the continuation of the |
| 0:06.8 | what can't happen, what won't happen, and what might. I think I'm going to turn that into a |
| 0:11.9 | series. And then I went for a hike and read the morning news and I had a completely different |
| 0:18.8 | idea. And what's on my mind this morning is the concept and the reality in today's world |
| 0:25.6 | of unintended consequences. |
| 0:27.6 | When we think we're doing something and the end result ends up being quite something else. So in my space, back, well, almost 20 years ago, between 2005 and 2009, we were talking about conventional |
| 0:58.0 | oil peaking and there was quite a lot of fanfare in the news, in the media, and the global |
| 1:04.0 | discussions about the concept of peak oil. |
| 1:07.1 | And then shale oil came and debt came and that peak and plateau got extended quite a bit. |
| 1:14.7 | It got extended to November of 2018, which were still around 3 million barrels below. |
| 1:21.0 | And so peak oil quite possibly could be 2018. |
| 1:26.1 | Yet no one in the world talks about it. |
| 1:28.8 | And oil shortages in the future and the carbon pulse and the downslope are not really |
| 1:34.0 | on anyone's minds or understanding because there was an unintended consequence of that |
| 1:43.1 | theme being debunked. |
| 1:45.6 | Another related theme is climate change. |
| 1:51.5 | Over the last 15 years, there have been a combination of two things. |
| 1:55.3 | One kind of doomsayers saying X, Y, Z is going to happen in the next five years, and it didn't happen. |
| 2:02.4 | And also people lumping in the climate science, which is quite legitimate and scary, but |
| 2:09.2 | unfolds over decades and centuries, with the, what do we do about it? |
| 2:15.4 | The solutions. |
| 2:16.5 | And the solutions, the W.E.F, we're going to eat bugs and |
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