This is Heather DeBros world and now you can live in it two times a week right here on podcast one welcome back everybody. I'm so thrilled about today's guest you know I she and I are similarly age to and I remember you know being a teenager and watching her and just being an off her beauty and I didn't all.

She and I didn't also realize how talented how creative how resilient how amazing. She's a super model she's a writer she has a new book called no filter please welcome it's amazing by the way Paulina porzcova.

Thank you Heather. Hi. Hi. Hi you look gorgeous you just came back from vacation where were you?

I was in Mexico and I just came back like literally late last night and it was like my first vacation in a while so God I enjoyed every second of it. It was so great.

Yeah I was just in where'd you go I was just in Cabo last week.

Uh to Lou. Oh I just wanted to to Lou for the first time but I was working so I didn't really get to see it but is it fabulous?

You know what there was a lot of seaweed which people complain about but I don't honestly really care.

The weather was beautiful our hotel was really cute I was there with a girlfriend so and it was just two of us in the room running around naked and like you know doing our makeup together and it was just so.

It was such a pleasure to have a little bit of companionship and son so it like we could be anywhere literally and it would have felt really great as long as the weather was good.

I love it. Alright so you know when when we all first we meaning the public all became aware of you you were a super model you were model came a super model.

What do you think because obviously I mean you've written novels you're you speak so beautifully your book is amazing I mean it's really it's really beautifully written and and sweet and prolific and all the things.

So what's the biggest misconception about models.

Oh God well about models in general I can't really tell you because I might hold some of them myself.

You know look the facts about models are is that they are very young women their girls so and the expectations that are then placed on you know to speak and to be you know to to be somehow inspirational to other young women.

It's a lot for basically a high school girl you know or a college age girl and I think the misconceptions sort of stem from that is that you know when you hold up these these young girls into the public light and you have these great expectations that they're also I guess supposed to be you know super smart super

worldly super well spoken and they're just kids yeah they're just kids I also think I find a lot of people when they talk about you know their children modeling or different people modeling is that they think it's just standing and looking pretty and and being a model is it's it's a it's a job I mean there's so much that's

involved in it but also being a creative being there's so much more than you could do I mean you were a writer I look at Gigi Hadid who's a photographer you know so many different skills that people have so much more than just standing and having a photo taken.

You know what I always I like to like and modeling to sports in a way because what you're really doing is is the you using your body I just had a long conversation about this with a friend yesterday

who wasn't necessarily aware of the you know what what what modeling actually entails and I'm not going to I'm not talking about you know all you're freezing in the bikini when it's 30 degrees and you're

kind of heatstroke you know when it's 115 it's not just that it's that as a model you're using your face and your body for for your work right this is what you get paid for and so what you learn are these kind of specific sort of

muscular body movements and and you know expressions and like where is that where where is the light good and how do I make this garment look good it's all physical and so and you know that your whole

attitude with this and how do you become a better model while you become more self aware of your outside has very little to do with your inside to actually be a really good model you just have to have that sort of I

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