Unexpected Presidential Advisors - with Gary Ginsberg
Call Me Back - with Dan Senor
Ark Media
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🗓️ 16 July 2021
⏱️ 60 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I wanted to write about Trump, ultimately concluded that there was no first friend. |
| 0:05.2 | The more I kind of delved into it, the more I rise, I think his first friend was just the adoration of the masses, |
| 0:10.4 | and if he short-handed it, it's really the Twitter Twitter feed and he certainly didn't need the blunt truth from anybody |
| 0:15.8 | didn't seek it didn't want it. |
| 0:20.6 | Welcome to post-Corona where we try to understand COVID-19's lasting impact on the |
| 0:25.4 | economy, culture and geopolitics. I'm Dan Seinore. Who do presidents, prime ministers and business leaders listen to in the midst of managing a crisis? It's a question that's always interested me |
| 0:44.1 | for my time in government and business and also as a moonlighting student of |
| 0:48.4 | history. I thought about that a lot during the COVID pandemic. On this podcast series we've talked about how the formal |
| 0:55.2 | channels and our governments performed, but how about those unofficial channels from outside |
| 1:01.3 | the government that wind up shaping our leaders thinking and |
| 1:04.4 | approach to world-changing events. Think about this during COVID, the number of |
| 1:09.0 | informed practitioners that government leaders had access to outside the regular bureaucracy of government. |
| 1:16.0 | Practitioners and everything from the markets to experience with supply chains to the front lines of medicines. |
| 1:22.0 | How many of these people had relationships with our leaders |
| 1:24.6 | from a previous time in their lives that could or should have made their mark during this moment. |
| 1:31.1 | We're talking about a different category of Presidential Advisor. |
| 1:34.0 | It's what Gary Ginsburg calls first friends. |
| 1:38.0 | That's the title of his new book. |
| 1:39.0 | The subtitle is The Powerful Unsung and unelected people who shape our presidents. |
| 1:45.9 | Gary has a fascinating background having advised Governor Bill Clinton in his selection |
| 1:50.5 | of Al Gore's vice president and having served in the Clinton White House and Justice |
| 1:54.8 | Department. |
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