[Unedited] Sally Kohn and Erick Erickson with Krista Tippett

On Being with Krista Tippett

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4.7 • 10.2K Ratings

🗓️ 11 October 2018

⏱️ 98 minutes

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“People believe things that are mutually contradictory; I think we all do. I know I do.” — Erick Erickson Earlier this year, the University of Montana invited On Being to attempt an outside the box civil conversation between two political pundits on contrasting ends of the U.S. political spectrum. It became a sold-out, public event in the spirit of Montana’s Senator Mike Mansfield, who famously modeled integrity, courage, and humility across the partisan aisle in the tumult of 1960s and 70s. Sally Kohn and Erick Erickson are both controversial, lightning-rod figures, yet neither of them fits neatly into a partisan mold. The reaction of the youngest people in the room is what compelled us to put this on the air. They said they had not witnessed or imagined a political conversation like this possible: one marked at once by bedrock difference — and good will, humor, and a willingness to bring our questions as well as our arguments, our humanity as well as our positions, into the room, if only for an evening. This interview is edited and produced with music and other features in the On Being episode “Sally Kohn and Erick Erickson — Relationship Across Rupture.” Find more at onbeing.org.

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0:00.0	Hello friends, I am thrilled to share that I'll be recording a live episode of on being in New York City with poet and MacArthur Genius fellow Claudia Rankin as part of the work at festival from W and YC Studios.
0:13.0	Our conversation will take place on November 12th at 7pm at the K Playhouse at Hunter College.
0:19.0	This is an evening you won't want to miss, so buy tickets now at workitevents.com. That's workit, W-E-R-K-I-T events.com.
0:29.0	Support for on being with Christa Tippett comes from the Fetzer Institute helping build the spiritual foundation for a loving world.
0:36.0	Fetzer envisions a world that embraces love as a guiding principle and animating force for our lives, a powerful love that helps us live in sacred relationship with ourselves, others, and the natural world.
0:48.0	Learn more by visiting Fetzer.org.
0:51.0	I'm Christa Tippett and this is on being's Unheard Cut. Up next my unedited conversation with Sally Cohn and Eric Erickson. Buckle your seat belts.
1:01.0	There's a shorter produced version of this at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you like to listen.
1:10.0	Good evening ladies and gentlemen. My name is Abraham Kim, Executive Director of the Moring and Mike Mansfield Center.
1:18.0	And a co-sponsor of today is important and timely conversation about the state of American politics, our political discourse, and civility.
1:28.0	We are grateful to our friends and the organizers of tonight's program on being Civil Conversations Project, Montana Public Radio, UM's Project on American Democracy and Citizenship, and the University of Montana Mansfield Center's Ethics and Public Affairs program.
1:47.0	Thank you to all of these partners for the months of hard work to get our three nationally distinguished guests.
1:55.0	Christa Tippett, Sally Cohn, and Eric Erickson to join us here at the University of Montana for this evening's discussion on Civil Conversation and Repairing Public Discourse.
2:09.0	My colleague from Montana Public Radio, Ray Echnus, will introduce our guests in more detail momentarily.
2:18.0	But today I'd like to take a few moments to share with you why today's program is special for the Mansfield Center.
2:27.0	On March 16 was Mike Mansfield's 115th birthday. And on March 25 is Maureen's 113th birthday.
2:38.0	I'm sure they would be very proud of tonight's program.
2:42.0	Senator and Ambassador Mike Mansfield was a man of great accomplishments.
2:47.0	However more than his achievements, those who knew him best remembered Mike for his character and values.
2:55.0	He was a man of integrity, courage, humility, and had a deep desire to work together with others who did not necessarily agree with him to get things done.
3:06.0	I think you'll agree that we need more leaders like Senator Mike Mansfield in our world today.
3:13.0	I'd like to share a short brief story with you to set the tone for this evening.
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