[Unedited] Michael McCullough with Krista Tippett

On Being with Krista Tippett

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Sociology, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Krista Tippett, Arts, Culture, On Being, Society, Society & Culture, Science, Social Sciences

4.7 • 10.2K Ratings

🗓️ 24 May 2012

⏱️ 108 minutes

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Summary

Michael McCullough describes science that helps us comprehend how revenge came to have a purpose in human life. At the same time, he stresses, science is also revealing that human beings are more instinctively equipped for forgiveness than we’ve perhaps given ourselves credit for. Knowing this suggests ways to calm the revenge instinct in ourselves and others and embolden the forgiveness intuition. Krista’s unedited conversation with Michael McCullough, author of “Beyond Revenge: The Evolution of the Forgiveness Instinct.” Krista spoke with him on August 29, 2008 from the studios of American Public Media in St. Paul, Minnesota, and he was in the studios of WLRN in Miami, Florida. This interview is included in our program “Getting Revenge and Forgiveness.” See more at onbeing.org/program/getting-revenge-and-forgiveness/104

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0:00.0	This is On Being's Unheard Cut.
0:02.2	I'm Krista Tippett, you're listening to my unedited conversation with Michael McCullough.
0:06.9	He's a professor of psychology and a Cooper fellow at the University of Miami,
0:11.2	where he directs the evolution and human behavior laboratory.
0:14.5	I spoke with him on August 29, 2008, from the studios of APM in St. Paul, Minnesota.
0:20.7	He was in the studio's public radio station, WLRN, in Miami, Florida.
0:26.0	This interview is included in our show, Getting Revenge and Forgiveness,
0:30.2	download the MP3 of that produced show at On Being.org.
0:39.2	Hello?
0:40.5	Hello.
0:41.3	Hi.
0:42.5	Hi there.
0:43.0	It's Krista Tippett.
0:44.5	Hi, it's Mike McCullough.
0:45.4	How are you?
0:46.3	Glad to have you at the other end of the microphone.
0:49.2	Likewise.
0:51.5	Do you have any questions of me before we begin?
0:55.6	Are you familiar with the show at all?
0:58.1	Yeah, I've heard it a few times.
0:59.2	Okay.
1:01.0	So, do you have anything I can answer?
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