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I'm Christa Tippett and this is On Being's Unheard Cut. Up next, my unedited conversation

with philosopher and social innovator Jean-Vanier. There is a shorter, produced version of this wherever

you get your podcasts. So we've created a makeshift recording studio, as you can see. And this is a

radio show, but because it's the 21st century, it's also a website and we will do video and...

So it's a website that means that it will come up on the web. Well, we'll have on the website,

people can hear our conversation, but they can also watch it. So try to...

On a website? Yes, it's going to be video taping it and taking pictures.

So I've known about large for years. I have a Master's of Divinity and I think it was when I was

studying theology that I started to read you and Henry now and then we did in the early years of

this show, we did what we called a radio pilgrimage to the Clinton community, the Clinton Iowa community.

So you know a little bit? We do, we kind of... It's very important. And in fact, we've put that

program on the air every year, I think, four or five times. Yes, and you can't turn on.

Your voice is in there also. We have some tape from when you got the Dignitas Humaana Award

at Saint John College. You were there? I was there. I was there. Yeah. So Joanne Horseman...

I don't think we did meet. You know, there were members of large communities there and I spent time

with some of them and Joanne Horseman became a friend when we were in Clinton. But I don't,

I watched you speak, but I don't think we met then. So...

I'm John Henry. Would you like some headphones?

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