I'm hoping that this is that was a little bit better. I just I hate feeling like I'm five years old. Yeah

No, well, yeah, my my problem is the opposite

They give me chairs like that and I kind of like a scarecrow

This is

Speaking of faith

Yeah, so I don't know if Christina's doing it or someone else. I'm here. I don't know. She does it or oh are they on?

Okay, Eugene. All right. Thanks. Thanks for help

All right

I decided to get my chair shorter. Hey, are you there? Can you hear me? Yes, I'm here. Hi, it's Christopher

But how are you doing great to have you at the other end of the microphone?

Thank you nice to hear from you. I'm just I'm still just my chair was about a foot too high

I'm almost

I wonder if you've heard you know, I don't know if you remember I interviewed you a long time ago in

Two years it must have been it was in 2002. I was pretty soon after September 11. It was it was for a program

A year after September 11th, but I actually think we did that interview maybe in the summer

Mm-hmm. I'm hearing it. I'm hearing that echo. Yeah

Dr. Matten, I think we may I think your headphones may be turned up too high and that's giving

My voice and echo that all right. How's that? It sounds better. It's great. Yeah. Well, I actually can hear my fun. Are you kidding? My voice is echoing too

I could you turn down a little bit more and we just turned hours down a bit. Okay. How does that sound now?

Let me just talk a minute. I think that's fine. Are you hearing it still much? No, it's gone. How?

No, I'm still hearing a bit of it, aren't you? Yeah, it's not as loud, but yeah

Are you Dr. Matten, are you still hearing the echo on this end?

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