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I'm Christa Tippett. Up next, my unedited conversation with poet Gregory Oer on language

and carrying grief. There is, as always, a shorter produced version of this wherever you found

this podcast. We thought about this because we were listening very closely to the programming

that Christa Tippett was doing with poets and astrophysicists and mathematicians and philosophers

and monks and social activists. She asks essential questions about what it means to be a human being

in the world. And poetry is always asking those questions. It seems like a natural partnership.

So, we contacted her producer and here we are with Christa Tippett and Gregory Oer with Unbeing

and Poetry.

I'm so happy to be sitting here again today with Gregory Oer. Let me say, I have some books and

I will propose some poems you might read. But if you feel just inspired to read something,

you can just tell me to throw one of these over to you at any time.

Yeah, and we are taping this to broadcast later. I don't know if we've said that, which is exciting.

So, I think there's something really magical about an experience that you have. We are

having an experience here in this room together for the next hour. And then you send it out.

Many, many more people are in the room. That's the magic of the medium of audio and radio,

which is now podcasting. And the experiences are different and yet communal. And so, anyway,

that's what we're taking of right now. I was thinking as I was getting ready to speak with you

that about how human beings become wise, sometimes by discovering things no one had ever known before.

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